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發表於 2009-6-11 09:42:31 | 顯示全部樓層
原帖由 mca 於 2009-6-10 17:01 發表
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發表於 2009-6-11 09:48:00 | 顯示全部樓層

回復 9# 的帖子

帖7的片斷,來源於帖5的 Wiki 網頁.
用以回答帖4問甚麼是"紅化".即紅移和紅化的分別.
找到 Wiki 英文原文.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_shift

"Effects due to physical optics or radiative transfer
The interactions and phenomena summarized in the subjects of radiative transfer and physical optics can result in shifts in the wavelength and frequency of electromagnetic radiation. In such cases the shifts correspond to a physical energy transfer to matter or other photons rather than being due to a transformation between reference frames. These shifts can be due to such physical phenomena as coherence effects or the scattering of electromagnetic radiation whether from charged elementary particles, from particulates, or from fluctuations of the index of refraction in a dielectric medium as occurs in the radio phenomenon of radio whistlers.[2] While such phenomena are sometimes referred to as "redshifts" and "blue shifts", the physical interactions of the electromagnetic radiation field with itself or intervening matter distinguishes these phenomena from the reference-frame effects. In astrophysics, light-matter interactions that result in energy shifts in the radiation field are generally referred to as "reddening" rather than "redshifting" which, as a term, is normally reserved for the effects discussed above.[2]

In many circumstances scattering causes radiation to redden because entropy results in the predominance of many low-energy photons over few high-energy ones (while conserving total energy).[2] Except possibly under carefully controlled conditions, scattering does not produce the same relative change in wavelength across the whole spectrum; that is, any calculated z is generally a function of wavelength. Furthermore, scattering from random media generally occurs at many angles, and z is a function of the scattering angle. If multiple scattering occurs, or the scattering particles have relative motion, then there is generally distortion of spectral lines as well.[2]

In interstellar astronomy, visible spectra can appear redder due to scattering processes in a phenomenon referred to as interstellar reddening[2] — similarly Rayleigh scattering causes the atmospheric reddening of the Sun seen in the sunrise or sunset and causes the rest of the sky to have a blue color. This phenomenon is distinct from redshifting because the spectroscopic lines are not shifted to other wavelengths in reddened objects and there is an additional dimming and distortion associated with the phenomenon due to photons being scattered in and out of the line-of-sight.

For a list of scattering processes, see Scattering."

[ 本帖最後由 C.L.Chan 於 2009-6-11 10:38 編輯 ]
發表於 2009-6-11 10:24:04 | 顯示全部樓層

帖7的片斷應是談及康普敦效應

此效應由美國物理學家 A.H. Compton 於1923年提出.
認為光經過電子雲時,產生散射,光子能量減小,產生紅化現象.
http://physics.bu.edu/~duffy/semester2/c35_compton.html
發表於 2009-6-11 13:01:55 | 顯示全部樓層
帖 7 的片斷譯自英文 Wiki 而來,但譯者似乎是行外人,借用電腦照英文單字直譯,難怪我 (其他讀者?) 看到一頭霧水。我在學天文時,教授曾囑咐不要盡信 Wiki,若借用其他科研資料要用原論文,並且要註明出處,不能媽夫的,如果引用 Wiki,一定被扣分不合格,不過這裡是只是普通討論區,大家都不為已甚。

Wiki 原英文在尾段已說出 atmospheric reddening 屬於 Rayleigh Scattering 類別,紅化與紅移是兩回事 (This phenomenon is distinct from redshift),在閒談區貼子 #10
(http://forum.hkas.org.hk/viewthr ... p;extra=&page=1)

我也回應說 「陽光紅化」是 Rayleigh Scattering,與另類的 Compton Scattering (CS) 無關。我不想在這裡多論 CS,只是指出 CS 只適用於形容極小粒子 (e.g. 電子) 和 極短波長 (e.g. X-ray, gamma ray) 造成的散射效果,不適用於大粒子 (如大氣塵粒) 和可見光波 (400~700nm 左右的目視陽光),否則今次討論就離題了。

AC

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